Chris Versace joins star technical analyst and Action Alerts PLUS contributor Helene Meisler, the chart-reader behind the  TheStreet's "Top Stocks" newsletter.

Among the topics the two tackle is the price of ground beef, her start in technical analysis, the importance of knowing when you're wrong on a stock, and why Meisler is worried the market's mood is getting "too bullish, too quickly, and the rally is going to just peter out ... a lot sooner than if we got people too bearish."

The conversation also covers why Meisler prefers to chart by hand and pencil, even in 2023, and why she sees an extended period of "chop" ahead for the market. In addition, she discusses oscillators and other tools she uses to gauge both markets and stocks, and how they factor into being a swing trader.

Companies mentioned during the conversation include ChargePoint (CHPT) , Caterpillar (CAT) , Meta Platforms (META) , Colgate (CL) , Bank of American (BAC) , Morgan Stanley (MS) , Ford Motor (F) , UPS (UPS) , several retailers and utilities as well. Closing out the conversation, Helene shares a piece of whip-smart advice that both investors and traders will want to hear.

BAC and CHPT are holdings in the Action Alerts PLUS portfolio.